Bobby brown claims Whitney was Bi and cheated with Tupac

Sad that he has to make money off of his ex wife true or not. Is not surprising that his memoir will be more about Whitney than him.

Bobby Brown Says Whitney Houston Had Secret Same-Sex Romance With Robyn Crawford

Maybe her greatest love of all. Whitney Houston was long rumored to have had a secret same-sex romance with her best friend and assistant, Robyn Crawford, and Bobby Brown tells Us Weekly in the new issue that it’s all true.

“I know,” Brown, 47, tells Us exclusively of his ex-wife’s relationship with Crawford, 55. “We were married for 14 years. There are some things we talked about that were personal to us.” Houston and Crawford met as teens when they both worked at a community center in East Orange, New Jersey, and Crawford became her assistant and later creative director, traveling the world with the Bodyguard star. The New Edition frontman alleges in his new book, Every Little Step, that Houston was bisexual. “I’m a man and she was attracted to me!” he tells Us.

Although the “I Will Always Love You” singer strongly denied the claims, Brown alleged it could have been because her family, including her mother, Cissy Houston, didn’t approve of the lesbian relationship — even insisting Crawford be fired. Cissy, 82, revealed to Oprah Winfrey in 2013 that it “absolutely” would have bothered her if her daughter was gay, and she would not have condoned it.

“I really feel that if Robyn was accepted into Whitney’s life, Whitney would still be alive today,” Brown says. “She didn’t have close friends with her anymore.”

"I want to see the receipts!"

He also claims he kicked Janet Jackson out of his bedroom naked and that he had sex with a ghost. Besides the bi thing, I dont think I believe a thing he says. He's going to try to vilify her for money and to get people to have sympathy for him. The man is insane.

Sad and true:

[quote]I really feel that if Robyn was accepted into Whitney’s life, Whitney would still be alive today,” Brown says. “She didn’t have close friends with her anymore.”

I'm a Nigerian prince with an island to sell you if you think that Bobby actually gives a damn r3. This is a man who loves no one but himself. Her choice of beard was ten times worse than staying in the closet. Waking up next to him would drive me to injecting and snorting any drug I could find.

Robyn was her "destiny". The drugs were to numb her -- from knowing Cissi, her community, the road ahead would not let her talents RISE if she stayed with Robyn.

Bobby is counting himself out as a "close friend"? LMAO.

Yes, he was right about that one thing and one thing only. Not that the closet kills, because Whitney loved her some Bobby. What about bisexual do people not understand? Bobby and Whitney were for real, but after Robyn was gone from her life is when things really began to spiral for Whitney. She and Bobby devolved deep into crack and sometimes psychosis. That is a very different drug and life than doing coke and weed. So many misinformed people say that Houston was a drug addict long before Brown. Well yes, she did cocaine before then, but she became a drug addict with Brown when their life became drug and sex binges on crack. Whitney would never be fully sober again. Her voice and reputation began took that long long fall. But Bobby was not a beard. She wanted a bad boy, she got one. Houston had sex with both men and women, but Robyn was the closest person to her heart. It's Whitney who got rid of Robyn, because Bobby and the family wanted her gone. The lesbian rumors were too strong and for too long and they were all jealous of what Whitney shared and felt for Robyn. Everyone wanted to control Houston while Robyn wanted be part of this big life and keep Whitney safe. Houston was in charge of her own life on the surface, but many of her choices and failings were acts of rebellion against her upbringing, her family, and Clive Davis. She paid people to stay with her and later she paid them to stay away.

I would cheat with Tupac too, just to see what the hype was. He fucked all these hoes Janet, Madonna, all of them.

This just in:

Bobby Brown claims Whitney was a toothless junkie would couldn't stay sober long enough to take a bath.

R6, we all know that Clive Davis set her up with Brown. We all know Whitney never dated men. We all know that she was 99% lesbian. Are you new?

No, I am not new and I am not wrong. Some of us know more truth than gossip dear.

And Whitney also slept with the whole New Editions

[quote]And Whitney also slept with the whole New Editions

Johnny Gill too?

Bobby said he was PENETRATED by a ghost.

I heard he had bipolar disorder but could have something else. What makes a person this self serving? He's a compulsive liar but he doesn't stutter at all even with serous wholes in history.

Bobby brown claimed he came into the marriage with much more money than Whitney Houston did but her net worth was at 90 million even before the bodyguard. His house was going into foreclosure and she had to save it. He also was suing his manager for mismanagement of funds around the same time. Any body who thinks Clive Davis choose Brown for a beard needs help.

[quote]Bobby brown claimed he came into the marriage with much more money than Whitney Houston

Most of the big artists on Arista were starting to go broke around that time, they had horrible deals. Whitney was a cut above the other acts so she had money, but probably not as much as we think she did.

R17 it's easy to find a newspaper article about it. She saved him for foclpslure. She made 45 million by '87. She wasn't a full fledged addict yet and she was never a big spender so I have a hard time believing he had more than her.

[quote]She wasn't a full fledged addict yet

How do you know? I was in the entertainment/music business in the 80's and by 1986 the rumor was rampant that Whitney Houston was doing a lot of coke.

I don't believe you. She was newly famous in '86, surely not famous enough yet for rumors to run rampantly about her. She still had more money than Brown. Explain the newspaper article mr. Music Insider

Whitney Houston's string of .number 1 hits in a row started in 1984. She was HUGE by 1986.

And yes, everybody knew about Robyn and about her drug consumption. But the rumor was strictly about coke, not freebasing or crack.

Didn't Tupac get his dick shot off by 1994? How could he be fucking anyone famous? He wasn't that big before '94 and then he didn't have a working dick.

R6, People get stuck on labels too much. Let's not care whether Whitney's "Lesbian or Bi?", or Bobby's "Lover or beard?"

The point is two lovers were forced APART, for being same sex.

Nothing about developing a bond with Bobby changes that.

I do believe it was real between Bobby and Whitney. You could see the sexual chemistry. But it was also obviously real between Whitney and Robyn, and Bobby is absolutely right: She was a victim of the closet.

I want to hear more about Tupac being gay.

R21, Whitney's first single wasn't released until 1985.

Her first technical hit was hold me with Teddy Penndergrass in ' 84. It did well on the R and B charts but not the pop charts and she was only a ft so I imagine she wasn't on many peoples radar.

Tupak was very smart and well-spoken. He was only 17 in that video!

Whitney's first solo album was released in February 1985. The point is that by 1986 - the year of The Greatest Love of All - she already had six big hits under her belt and was undeniably huge worldwide.

You can't say she was a relative unknown at that point - please!

I do think Whitney's problem was her awful mother and a strict religious upbringing which didn't give her a clear perspective on life. She probably was a lesbian but also probably decided herself to become straight. A life of sex and drugs is what Brown gave her and she chose him for this because she was already into into drugs.

I think Whitney was gay, and when her family made her gave up Robin in the name of religion and her career, it started her off the rails.

She picked bad boys as a form of rebellion against her family. If they were going to make her conform to straight, she was going to pick the worst of the worst.

Oooooor, we can use Ockham's razor and jaccept the ACTUAL evidence we have ...and conclude she was most likely truly BISEXUAl!!!

Jesusfuckingchrist why do we have to always play in to this victimhood culture .."oh the evil straights are manouvering to steal her away from us !! She is ours!! I'm a Kinsey sixer: She is a Kinsey Sixer too! too! She is a victim : I am a victim too!!!

Jesusfuckingchrist get over your Martyr complex; she's is not yours or anybody else's personal Martyr. In the final analysis only she knew the content of her heart and mind and her desires and predilections.

Yes R32, I concur. By the summer of 1985, Whitney was pretty huge (nationally, at the very least). There was quite a bit of buzz and buildup to the release of her debut album and the release of her first single - that by the time "You Give Good Love" (her 1st single) came out, she became the "It" Girl right away. Well, she had basically been anointed the "It" girl even BEFORE her debut album/single was released. Like I said, Whitney was the subject of industry buzz...and the beneficiary of Clive Davis's savvy star-building machine.

By the spring of 1986, when "The Greatest Love of All" was released, she was in "Superstar" territory. In 1986, she was more than big enough for the rumor mill to start churning...

[quote]Like I said, Whitney was the subject of industry buzz...and the beneficiary of Clive Davis's savvy star-building machine.

Mariah Carey came out as more of a phenom, but Whitney arrived as an undeniable star. What Whitney didn't have she didn't need. Sometimes we forget how gorgeously gifted and sweet and beautiful she was right out of the gate. Of course she was well managed and presented but here she is hitting that F5 a step up from the studio recording, trilling in her head voice through a beautiful smile and singing her pop song like an R&B aria, with more soul live than on her immaculate records. She would become known for that. This video makes me happy and sad. Whitney Houston had it all and destroyed most of it. Bobby helped her. Clive and Cissy and Gary too. But even Robyn made clear that Whitney always did what she wanted and called the shots. Because her gift was so great, she took a long time to fall.

No doubt, R38 - no doubt. By focusing my prior post on the "buzz" that was generated for Whitney, and her instant, phenomenal success - I didn't mean to imply that Whitney's rare talent was not a factor in her success. Her extreme talent is/was so obvious, and such a "given" that I suppose that I didn't feel much of a need to mention it. Whitney was a case where the promotion and the "packaging" did not exceed the actual talent. That said, looking back...it's pretty clear that there was a bit of a calculated effort to build up Whitney to the media and the public - so that by the time that actual songs started to be released, Whitney was in a position to be immensely recognized and rewarded for her talent.

There have been people who have been quite gifted, but did not quite get the "promotional push" - and then there have been artists who were relatively thin on talent, but benefited from favorable marketing and promotion. Whitney was fortunate to have both exceptional talent and skilled promotion (though one can argue that such blessings became a curse for her).

[quote]I think Whitney was gay, and when her family made her gave up Robin in the name of religion and her career, it started her off the rails.

I agree. I've always said Whitney's money should have gone to Robyn, the one person she loved. Not a penny for that greedy old, homophobic cunt Cissy, whose psychotic religiosity sent Whitney straight to the crack pipe then on to the grave, by way of the closet.

Tupac was as gay as the day is long - good lord.

Does Bobby talk about his physical attacks on Robyn while she and Whitney were living together in New Jersey? They were quite brutal.

Everybody in the music industry knew Whitney was a lesbian. I recall an American record producer who came to Switzerland to work many times at the recording studios in Montreux and he spoke very openly about recording Whitney in Boston I believe it was and Robyn was always with her and they were a very nice couple.

At the end of the day, she was nothing but a ratchet ghetto sluttly crackhead who could sing, and proof that the closet kills.

As for Bobby, he's a piece of shit who is spilling all these secrets to sell a shitty book. Pathetic.

Wow r44, tell us how you really feel. Say what you will about Houston but she never seemed promiscuous to me. I don't believe Bobby went it comes to the affairs. I do think she was Bi rather than gay, which allowed her to be so confident when she denied being a lesbian.

R45 = Typical black fan in denial about his dead idol

I saw them together at Jewel's Place back in the 80's, and Whitney and Robin were obviously very much in love, and were very good for each other. Robin was the grounded, strong and very polite butch who calmed the flighty, femme Whitney.

I am so sorry it had to end this way, peace and love to you Robin.

R 46, 44. Sorry, I have a heard time believing that someone would stay in a terrible marriage for 14 years even if they were addict if they did not share some kind of connection with someone. I would be much happier if she was a lesbian because she would have chosen a better beard than Bobby Brown.

Also r44, why do assume I'm Black? You added a racial component that was unneeded. Do all Blacks have a positive image of Whitney while all Whites only see her as a druggie?

Does anyone know how Robin is doing these days?

R48 "Sorry, I have a heard time believing that someone would stay in a terrible marriage for 14 years even if they were addict" perhaps for a child, sometime that's enough, for people who have no business staying together

It's funny, the thing I most remember from my encounter with Robin and Whitney was how Whitney looked at her. It was one glance, that was so full of love and affection, that I remember it to this day, almost thirty years later, even after all of my own addiction horrors.

That look has stayed in my brain all of these years.

Love carries it's own energy.

[quote]Sorry, I have a heard time believing that someone would stay in a terrible marriage for 14 years

I made it to 10.

I wonder how Robyn feels about Bobbys book.

Wait bobby claims to have had sex with a ghost?????

He was "mounted" by a ghost. Drugs were so prevalent in his upbringing, he mistakenly made chicken with cocaine as a kid. He called it cocaine chicken.

"Sorry, I have a heard time believing that someone would stay in a terrible marriage for 14 years even if they were addict if they did not share some kind of connection with someone. "

You mean, like a co-dependent drug connection?

You're kind of a dumbass, aren't you?

If you take into account that Whitney had no relationships until Bobby Brown showed up then it looks more like she was a lesbian that decided to beard with Bobby. There were no other people close to her other than Bobby and Robyn. No other love relationships. It's odd Bobby is saying in this new book that Whitney was bi because in some interview or article people were talking about right after her death he was quoted as saying that Whitney was constantly rejecting him sexually and that he didn't believe she ever loved him.

I knew a few lesbians that would see Whitney and Robyn at the lesbian clubs in New York. They were always at SheScape together and my friends would tell me whenever they saw her there.

She did have relationships with men before r58. A Brad Johnson, Eddie Murphey, Jermaine Jackson, etc. She doesn't have any relationships with women besides Robyn. Why was she with Ray J before she died? She could have gotten drugs from anyone so you can't use that excuse.

That's not true 59 none of those relationships happened. They were rumored but not real.

I remember about their being reports of her and Brad going on dates in the 80's. They were seen together. Why would he lie? Also The Jermaine Jackson relationship has been confirmed by many people including one of his wives and Whitney herself in an interview 1999. She mentioned having a relationship with a married man before making Saving All My Love. The actor in the video shares a strong resemblance to him.

Why lie on a guy, you never dated?

You also have to explain the Ray J relationship. She could have gotten drugs from anyone. By the time she was in her lates 40's, they would be no good reason to fake a relationship with a man 10+ years her junior. She didn't seem to have any lesbian partners after Bobby either. No sightings at all unlike the the early 80's and she still made the news headlines often enough for it peak someone's interest.

Please, nobody wanted Bobby Brown's dick. I remember at some point when he was in rehab, one of Brown's fellow addicts ran to some tabloid show after Brown confessed that he and Whitney never had sex because she was a lesbian. It was a shitty thing to do, but not surprising if you're sorting your dirty laundry in front of a roomful of not exactly recovering addicts.

How did she have the baby r64, a turkey baster?

She was pregnant a few times

“I really feel that if Robyn was accepted into Whitney’s life, Whitney would still be alive today,” Brown says. “She didn’t have close friends with her anymore.”

Yeah, we all figure that one out. At least someone within that group finally said it.

R68, it's ironic since he was the one who had the biggest problem with her and the person who ultimately drove her away. As much as Whitney's family hated her, Robyn stayed until Bobby came along.

[quote]Sad that he has to make money off of his ex wife

Whitney's mother made money off of Whitney just a year after she died. That whole family is full of hypocrites, sycophants and hangers on. No wonder Whitney wasn't able to find a better husband or any decent friends. These religious nutcases are just scum.

Her mother probably wrote what she did because she old and she knows that everyone is going to have stories about Whitney. Her life could very well be a movie one day. Whitney isn't alive to give an account of her childhood and Cissy could die anyway, it was her only chance to get a positive account of her daughter that could be one day used as source material. What would a film about Whitney Houston 30+ years from now look like if it was based on hearsay and Bobby Brown? It's not like she was overly intrusive in going into detail about her daughters life. If anything, Whitney sounded like an overly giving, sensitive, and rebellious child who grew into an overly giving, sensitive, and rebellious adult. Cissy isn't the nicest woman but she is honest. She admitted to not liking Robyn and trying to keep her from Whitney and she also admitted she didn't know the extent of their relationship because Whitney never brought it up. Her book is probably the most honest and fair account of Whitney Houston the world will ever get.

So the fling with Jodie definitely happened right?

Someone should've asked Jodie on her recent press tour about Whitney..

No r72, . However, Jodie does know Robyn. Robyn is currently married to her former publicist.

Robyn's only comments after Whitney's death were among the most loving and real, sweet and mysterious. She held back more than she revealed and that's the way it will stay. Some people can't be bought and I don't believe she will say anymore. Robyn and Rickey Minor seem to be the only ones in Whitney's life who never sold her out.

You can lead a horse to water, but can't make a monkey sing I will always love you... and profit.

Enjoy your coma induced sanctuary from the crazy that is(was) your life Bobbi.

I thought Whitney slept with Kevin Costner

I'd like to fill a bathtub full of water and change his name to Bobbing Brown.

I don't think Cissy Houston knew that much about Whitney, that book was just for money reasons.

Brown was drug buddie and sex master for Whitney. She probably was a lesbian but didn't like that aspect about herself, so she settled into an abusive relationship full of sex and drugs and denial.

She wasn't intelligent or well balanced mentally, typical black church girl. Before any reasonable thought enters their minds they have to shout hallelujah three times.

Is this his words stated in the People Magazine article shown, or said somewhere else? I did not hear him say Whitney was bi in that interview a few days ago...I'd really only accept the quotes if they came from a credible source., and I suppose People is one. Thanks peeps!

R79, read the book. Whitney certainly wasn't dumb. Have you ever seen her do a sober interview? She sound intelligent for most pop stars.

Most of of you are thick headed odors have set opinions of Cissy and Whitney and would do any research to seer if your right or wrong. Cissy didn't act like she knew whitney's every thought or desire but they lived and worked together until Whitney was 19. She has more intimate knowledge of how Whitney grew up then anyone else. She gives a good account on when Whitney started smoking, how bullying as a child impacted her, her shyness and weakness when dealing with confrontation as a child and teen, how her modeling got started, when she decided to become a singer, people she idolized as a child, the kind of student she was, etc.

Those of you who hate Cissy should read the book. She doesn't even paint herself in the best light. When Whitney would practice with ehe, she was such a harsh teacher, Whitney was in tears by the end of a session. She even told her, " you make me feel like I'll never be good enough". She also highlights that Whitney was bullied harshly by other girls in a child. She noticed then that she really didn't fight back or stand up for herself and how instead of being sympathic, she criticized Whitney further. She saw it as an early sign of Whitney' weakness and sensirivity. Say what you will about Cissy, she loved her daughter and she's honest to a fault. I also don't see her as someone who made money off of Whitney. She's the only who really tried to help her with the drugs besides Robyn and Whitney's dad even going as far as to put her in mandatory rehab.

All I know is rather than having a mother like Cissy, I rather have grown up without a mother. All these religious nutcases are mentally retarded.

Whitney was never intelligent, she grew up not having any interest in thinking anything else than hallelujah.

They send her to rehab and she was told that her addiction is hard to overcome so she left and thought she could pray it away. The girl was like any other dumb black chick from the hood. She raised a daughter in drug hell and jumped from Bobby Brown to a Kartrashian fucker.

She was talented as hell, could bring meaning to a song and captivade an audience like nobody else, but I have no delusions that she was low level ghetto trash.

Anyone who doesn't believe that a mutual love of drugs cannot hold two people together for fourteen years has never been addicted to and loved drugs.

I knew exactly what the deal was when I aw her meet him as he was released from jail and she jumped up into his arms. They needed each other and they had some wild and pleasurable times between the many years of hell. But I do not think for a minute that they were extremely sexual with each other. When you are deeply in love with cocaine, SHE'S your lover. That's not to say that he was a beard for her...I don't believe that was true. She adored Robyn, and I wish that they could have stayed together. As someone else said upthread, I saw them together several times when they were basically away from the public, and they were all about each other and their affection fro each other was quite beautiful.

A lot of racism in this thread

How did Latifah escape all that church bullshit?

My bf (before we got together) was on the beach in Hawaii next to Whitney and some women (this during the time she was married to Bobby).

He said the group was obviously a bunch of lesbians and that Whitney treated the waiters like dirt when she called for more drinks. Serious cunt attitude.

Using the term "Ghetto trash" is both reprehensible as well as inaccurate.

She should have gotten sober and bearded with MJ. He was a serial adulter any way.

Who cares. Let Nippy rest. Beyotches.

[quote]Using the term "Ghetto trash" is both reprehensible as well as inaccurate.

I liked her but obviously she was very immature and was deliberately stubborn to live her life as trash. I wonder what had happened to her if she had been the daughter of Diana Ross. She never spouted that religious BS and her kids are fine. Cissy Houston from the beginning of Whitney's career explosion had the reputation of being a control freak, who thought the most important thing in her kid's education was religion. Yet all of her kids became druggies and the older brother even introduced the younger sister to drugs. How bad must your education be to not make kids understand that this is wrong.

If Whitney hadn't relied so much on religion she might still be here.

Whitney seemed very unhappy. I don't think I've ever seen anyone squander so much talent.

Kevin Costner wanted her but I think she rejected him.

I don't know much about drugs but does a dick even work on coke etc?

R92 have we forgotten Elvis Presley, Judy Garland, Jimmie hendrix, etc. she's not the first celebrity to die from drugs or are you saying she was more talented

R91, Whitney actually graduated from a privite school and Cissy and Dion never displayed the type of behavior Whitney did when she was high. I'm not going to judge someone's character based on how they behaved as an addict. I imagine it would be hard for anyone to behave classy under those circumstances.

I remember an interview Whitney did where she felt she was pressured to become another Diana Ross, marrying white men. She was very much a black girl living the black life, she was raised conservative and thought conservative. Even if she had fallen in love with a white person (male or female) she wouldn't have married them because she thought it wasn't right as a black girl.

Black churches, homophobic, racist and extremely conservative.

I don't blame Whitney, she was ultimately a victim of her upbringing but she never became herself because she was stuck in the values of her conservative surroundings. from which she deliberately never wanted to escape.

Whitney was always a conservative gal and supported George Bush. She said so on her show.

Anyway, to call people trash, either black or white, is offensive and elitist.

Knock it off, she was a gorgeous and loving woman before the drugs.

Hey Whitney, this is how you do it girl.

[quote]Anyway, to call people trash, either black or white, is offensive and elitist.

I like her, but it is hard to side with her, esp when it comes to herself failing to provide a safe environment for her daughter.

[quote]Say what you will about Cissy, she loved her daughter and she's honest to a fault.

No, that worthless old cunt did not love her daughter, she loved some idealized version of a person who didn't exist. And she wasn't honest, at least not with herself: She couldn't admit she had a lesbian daughter.

Cissy Houston is like any other religious extremist. I always thought the woman was evil. Black churches, bogged down by conservative values. Awful!

Reminder that 2pac is a convicted rapist.

In November 1993, Shakur and others were charged with sexually assaulting a woman in a hotel room. The complainant claimed sexual assault after her second visit to Shakur's hotel room;she alleged that Shakur and his entourage raped her. As a result of the trial, Shakur was convicted of first-degree sexual abuse, and acquitted of the weapons and sodomy charges. The judge described the crimes during the sentencing of Shakur to 1½–4½ years in prison, as "an act of brutal violence against a helpless woman."

We knew in the '80s she had a girlfriend, it was common knowledge. Later we were glad she had someone to help her cope with the idiocy of marriage to Bobby Brown. Now the only way he can make himself relevant is to bring her up when she should RIP. I'm surprised he doesn't punctuate his bullshit with "it's my prerogative!"

I don't buy it about Tupac.

2Pac was gay. Madge and Whitney bearded for the convicted rapist = 2Pac

This is a gay site. Why all this "don't dredge this up she is dead" bullshit?

R105 I think Bobby may be closeted too, though I think bi or even pan (that new label the kids are using) applies more to him. I’ve been a fan of NE since the start and B.B. used to playfully flirt with the other guys all the time, which wouldn’t be remarkable for a modern typical boyband - but for the boyband prototype out of the black community? Hmm.

Also, his solo ‘My Prerogative’ was a really slutty-sounding bisexual anthem. I mean, Britney covered it...

But he’s cool with Johnny Gill and didn’t have any screaming hysterical vitriol to add about Whit’s homosexuality, so I don’t think he’s a homophobe or sweats gay people. As long as no one accuses him of having sugar in his tank...

I love his cute affectionate bond with Ralph. I could easily believe it if they had messed around on the tour bus as teens.

Bobby is straighter than a ruler.

Has anyone watched the Whitney documentary of 2018? It was good.

R108 How high was Bobby in that clip? Jeezus.

Disgusting on every conceivable level. Unjustifiable, too.

These are one of those moments in life where I have to pray for strength and guidance.

I know this thread is older than dirt, but this is my first time reading it.

As a female drug addict of many years(mostly opiates in pill form) I can attest that NOTHING bonds a couple together like a shared love of drugs. I have been married twice, and no human love could hold a candle to the love of your drug of choice. When you have that drug buddy(whether you two are having sex or not) your habit is like your baby...you get pleasure in sharing your using even when it inevitably devolves into fights...and it always does.

I am not proud of this, so please don't mistake my candor for smug arrogance, but if I would have stayed with my drug buddy forever if he had not be ahem, sent away.

One last thing. I have it on very good authority(Jacky Jasper) that that little punk Ray J was simply her LA drug connection. He would serve as a courier whenever she needed him. Were they even friends? Yes, after a fashion. But there absolutely was no physical attraction between them.

If you remember that note that Whitney passed to Brandy the night before her tragic death(when she looked such a mess) there is a certain faction of her fans who actually believe there was a meaningful message which revealed a very mysterious an nefarious situation between her and Clive Davis. Ha. The note was nothing but her urgent plea to up her supply. There was absolutely nothing personal within it.

And for the record, it may have been cold hearted in some fans' opinions that Clive went ahead with his Grammy gala the night her body was still in the hotel, and I could further explain why it just could not have been cancelled...but let me say that contrary to what many think, Whitney and Clive had more of a parental relationship than she had with her own dad. They loved each other, but like family there were spats and rough periods. But the idea that Clive was behind her death is the most preposterous thing I have ever heard.

I like that shady OP in her haste didn't bother to capitalise Bobby's name right.

And R109 how do you know Bobby never went off-road? Were you his handler back in the day?

Good gossip R112, thanks. Any more?

Whitney as talented as she was, just made one bad decision after the other. The leeches in her family, the religious hypocrites she hung out with, Bobby Brown and his greedy family, questionable friends ... the only sane person she ever knew she kicked out of her life, Robyn.

I can understand why Robyn left this mess.

He outed her decades ago. The straights didn't consider him a credible source and ignored it.

R113 Watch that W documentary. One of her brothers talked about Bobby.

R116 there isn’t much to like or admire about B.B., but I have to say I always did find his outspoken honesty refreshing. It might be that quality which makes me question his sexuality even though by all accounts he straight.

Someone needs to slip Bobby Brown a large dose of fentanyl.

What a slimy fucker.

I get such a kick out of watching vids of B.B. on the last reunion tour, where he forgets the choreo and gets out of breath so has to stop while everyone else carries on. It’s like, “oh, he’s tired again”.

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